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I think these categories are unclear what should be where. I think it would be easier to group them northeast (+,+), southeast (+,-), southwest (-,-) and northwest (-,+). [[User:Purine|Purine]] 03:21, 26 January 2012 (CST)
I think these categories are unclear what should be where. I think it would be easier to group them northeast (+,+), southeast (+,-), southwest (-,-) and northwest (-,+). [[User:Purine|Purine]] 03:21, 26 January 2012 (CST)
:Good point... I had just been going off whichever coordinate had the greater absolute value. Here's what the categories would look like grouped that way:
:{| style="background:#e0e0e0; border:solid #999999 1px"
|- valign="top"
| ''Northwest (-x, -z)''
* '''[[Agua Fria]] @ -940, -760'''
* '''[[Snapperolle]] @ -246, -13'''
* [[Ember]] @ -146, -1837
* [[Montpelier]] @ -545, -1763
* [[Cloud City]] @ -670, -1950
* [[Andaren]] @ -1200, -1550
* [[Cloud Town]] @ -375, -1300
* [[The Cobbleslums]] @ -260, -1205
* [[Lemuria]] @ -394, -941
* [[Arborvale]] @ -131, -738
* [[Snowhedge]] @ -1550, -650
* [[Something Else]] @ -1280, -1640
* [[Frostmourne]] @ -3000, -3000
* [[Fountain]] @ -2936, -365
* [[Dimma Vale]] @ ?, ?
* [[Hexa Empire]] @ -1000, -300
|| ''Northeast (+x, -z)''
* '''[[Seneca]] @ 0, -300'''
* '''[[Pico (r6)|Pico]] @ 0, -1500'''
* '''[[Pleasantville]] @ 1300, -1000'''
* '''[[Beacon Island]] @ 520, -710'''
* [[Esper]] @ 1025, -1335
* [[Diehimmel und Diegrotten]] @ 1600, -1400
* [[Blanco]] @ 1730, -1760
* [[Gobias]] @ ?, ?
* [[Rocket Dominion]] @ ?, ?
* [[Seattle]] @ ?, ?
|| ''Southwest (-x, +z)''
* '''[[Nowhere]] @ -40, 1570'''
* '''[[Topaz]] @ -1500, 0'''
* '''[[Deorne]] @ -850, 810'''
* '''[[Lothos]] @ -230, 1130'''
* [[Clusterblock]] @ -185, 1724
* [[Herpville]] @ -700, 0
* [[New Hempshire]] @ -1420, 1560
* [[Deepholm]] @ -1285, 1090
* [[Tower Town]] @ -2278, 885
* [[Land of Ooo]] @ ?, ?
* [[Knuttin' Atoll]] @ 1100, -250
* [[Sigil]] @ 705, -89
* [[La Grès Cathedral]] -250, 250
* [[Draco]] @ -160, 280
|| ''Southeast (+x, +z)''
* '''[[New Argoth]] @ 1500, 0'''
* '''[[Wellspring]] @ 900, 700'''
* '''[[Birch Island]] @ 1630, 1337'''
* '''[[Überproject]] @ 1500, 2250'''
** [[Hall of Pillars]]
* [[Oceana]] @ 1750, 275
* [[Whore Island]] @ 2526, 24
* [[Monkeh Island]] @ ?, ?
* [[Riverwood]] @ 540, 260
* [[DerpTown]] @ 900, 300
* [[Fauxlandia]] @ 16, 1700
* [[Southquan]] @ ?, ?
* [[Kilst Island]] @ 1520, 710
* [[Not Bacon]] @ 1630, 875
* [[New Athens]] @ 950, 530
* [[Valhallan Threshold]] @ 1920, 1500
* [[Voxelholm]] @ 1790, 1930
* [[Sluttsville]] @ 3000, 3000
* [[Shitburg]] @ 331, 41
* [[EverBright]] @ 118, 268
|}
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:One downside though, settlements right near the compass points sort of get lumped into a category that doesn't really describe their location... same problem that already exists with the current grouping. For comparison's sake, I tried grouping them in 9 sectors:
:{| style="background:#e0e0e0; border:solid #999999 1px"
|- valign="top"
| ''Northwest (-x, -z)''
* '''[[Agua Fria]] @ -940, -760'''
* [[Montpelier]] @ -545, -1763
* [[Cloud City]] @ -670, -1950
* [[Andaren]] @ -1200, -1550
* [[Cloud Town]] @ -375, -1300
* [[Lemuria]] @ -394, -941
* [[Snowhedge]] @ -1550, -650
* [[Something Else]] @ -1280, -1640
* [[Frostmourne]] @ -3000, -3000
* [[Dimma Vale]] @ ?, ?
|| ''North (-z)''
* '''[[Pico (r6)|Pico]] @ 0, -1500'''
* [[Ember]] @ -146, -1837
* [[The Cobbleslums]] @ -260, -1205
* [[Arborvale]] @ -131, -738
|| ''Northeast (+x, -z)''
* '''[[Pleasantville]] @ 1300, -1000'''
* '''[[Beacon Island]] @ 520, -710'''
* [[Esper]] @ 1025, -1335
* [[Diehimmel und Diegrotten]] @ 1600, -1400
* [[Blanco]] @ 1730, -1760
* [[Gobias]] @ ?, ?
|- valign="top"
| ''West (-x)''
* '''[[Topaz]] @ -1500, 0'''
* [[Fountain]] @ -2936, -365
* [[Herpville]] @ -700, 0
* [[Hexa Empire]] @ -1000, -300
|| ''Central (<300 blocks from spawn)''
* [[PvE Spawn|Spawn]] @ 0, 0
* '''[[Seneca]] @ 0, -300'''
* '''[[Snapperolle]] @ -246, -13'''
* [[La Grès Cathedral]] -250, 250
* [[Draco]] @ -160, 280
* [[Shitburg]] @ 331, 41
* [[EverBright]] @ 118, 268
* [[Rocket Dominion]] @ ?, ?
* [[Seattle]] @ ?, ?
|| ''East (+x)''
* '''[[New Argoth]] @ 1500, 0'''
* [[Oceana]] @ 1750, 275
* [[Knuttin' Atoll]] @ 1100, -250
* [[Whore Island]] @ 2526, 24
* [[Monkeh Island]] @ ?, ?
* [[Riverwood]] @ 540, 260
* [[Sigil]] @ 705, -89
* [[DerpTown]] @ 900, 300
|- valign="top"
| ''Southwest (-x, +z)''
* '''[[Deorne]] @ -850, 810'''
* [[New Hempshire]] @ -1420, 1560
* [[Deepholm]] @ -1285, 1090
* [[Tower Town]] @ -2278, 885
* [[Land of Ooo]] @ ?, ?
|| ''South (+z)''
* '''[[Nowhere]] @ -40, 1570'''
* '''[[Lothos]] @ -230, 1130'''
* [[Clusterblock]] @ -185, 1724
* [[Fauxlandia]] @ 16, 1700
* [[Southquan]] @ ?, ?
|| ''Southeast (+x, +z)''
* '''[[Wellspring]] @ 900, 700'''
* '''[[Birch Island]] @ 1630, 1337'''
* '''[[Überproject]] @ 1500, 2250'''
** [[Hall of Pillars]]
* [[Kilst Island]] @ 1520, 710
* [[Not Bacon]] @ 1630, 875
* [[New Athens]] @ 950, 530
* [[Valhallan Threshold]] @ 1920, 1500
* [[Voxelholm]] @ 1790, 1930
* [[Sluttsville]] @ 3000, 3000
|}
:Does a decent job grouping settlements into regions, but the end result is a rather cluttered layout. --[[User:Bencvt|Bencvt]] 09:34, 26 January 2012 (CST)
==Testing==
{| style="background:#e0e0e0; border:solid #999999 1px"
|- valign="top"
|''Central (<300 blocks from spawn)''
* [[PvE Spawn|Spawn]] @ 0, 0
* '''[[Seneca]] @ 0, -300'''
* '''[[Snapperolle]] @ -246, -13'''
* [[La Grès Cathedral]] -250, 250
* [[Draco]] @ -160, 280
* [[Shitburg]] @ 331, 41
* [[EverBright]] @ 118, 268
* [[Rocket Dominion]] @ ?, ?
* [[Seattle]] @ ?, ?
| ''Northwest (-x, -z)''
* '''[[Agua Fria]] @ -940, -760'''
* [[Ember]] @ -146, -1837
* [[Montpelier]] @ -545, -1763
* [[Cloud City]] @ -670, -1950
* [[Andaren]] @ -1200, -1550
* [[Cloud Town]] @ -375, -1300
* [[The Cobbleslums]] @ -260, -1205
* [[Lemuria]] @ -394, -941
* [[Arborvale]] @ -131, -738
* [[Snowhedge]] @ -1550, -650
* [[Something Else]] @ -1280, -1640
* [[Frostmourne]] @ -3000, -3000
* [[Fountain]] @ -2936, -365
* [[Dimma Vale]] @ ?, ?
* [[Hexa Empire]] @ -1000, -300
|| ''Northeast (+x, -z)''
* '''[[Pico (r6)|Pico]] @ 0, -1500'''
* '''[[Pleasantville]] @ 1300, -1000'''
* '''[[Beacon Island]] @ 520, -710'''
* [[Esper]] @ 1025, -1335
* [[Diehimmel und Diegrotten]] @ 1600, -1400
* [[Blanco]] @ 1730, -1760
* [[Gobias]] @ ?, ?
* [[Rocket Dominion]] @ ?, ?
* [[Seattle]] @ ?, ?
|| ''Southwest (-x, +z)''
* '''[[Nowhere]] @ -40, 1570'''
* '''[[Topaz]] @ -1500, 0'''
* '''[[Deorne]] @ -850, 810'''
* '''[[Lothos]] @ -230, 1130'''
* [[Clusterblock]] @ -185, 1724
* [[Herpville]] @ -700, 0
* [[New Hempshire]] @ -1420, 1560
* [[Deepholm]] @ -1285, 1090
* [[Tower Town]] @ -2278, 885
* [[Land of Ooo]] @ ?, ?
* [[Knuttin' Atoll]] @ 1100, -250
* [[Sigil]] @ 705, -89
* [[La Grès Cathedral]] -250, 250
|| ''Southeast (+x, +z)''
* '''[[New Argoth]] @ 1500, 0'''
* '''[[Wellspring]] @ 900, 700'''
* '''[[Birch Island]] @ 1630, 1337'''
* '''[[Überproject]] @ 1500, 2250'''
** [[Hall of Pillars]]
* [[Oceana]] @ 1750, 275
* [[Whore Island]] @ 2526, 24
* [[Monkeh Island]] @ ?, ?
* [[Riverwood]] @ 540, 260
* [[DerpTown]] @ 900, 300
* [[Fauxlandia]] @ 16, 1700
* [[Southquan]] @ ?, ?
* [[Kilst Island]] @ 1520, 710
* [[Not Bacon]] @ 1630, 875
* [[New Athens]] @ 950, 530
* [[Valhallan Threshold]] @ 1920, 1500
* [[Voxelholm]] @ 1790, 1930
* [[Sluttsville]] @ 3000, 3000
* [[Shitburg]] @ 331, 41
|}
{|
|- valign="top"
|''Central (<300 blocks from spawn)''
{|style="text-align: right;"
||[[PvE Spawn|Spawn]]||0,||0
|-
||'''[[Seneca]]||0,||-300'''
|-
||'''[[Snapperolle]]||-246,||-13'''
|-
||[[La Grès Cathedral]]||-250,||250
|-
||[[Draco]]||-160,||280
|-
||[[Shitburg]]||331,||41
|-
||[[EverBright]]||118,||268
|-
||[[Rocket Dominion]]||?,||?
|-
||[[Seattle]]||?,||?
|}
| ''Northwest (-x, -z)''
* '''[[Agua Fria]] @ -940, -760'''
* [[Ember]] @ -146, -1837
* [[Montpelier]] @ -545, -1763
* [[Cloud City]] @ -670, -1950
* [[Andaren]] @ -1200, -1550
* [[Cloud Town]] @ -375, -1300
* [[The Cobbleslums]] @ -260, -1205
* [[Lemuria]] @ -394, -941
* [[Arborvale]] @ -131, -738
* [[Snowhedge]] @ -1550, -650
* [[Something Else]] @ -1280, -1640
* [[Frostmourne]] @ -3000, -3000
* [[Fountain]] @ -2936, -365
* [[Dimma Vale]] @ ?, ?
* [[Hexa Empire]] @ -1000, -300
|| ''Northeast (+x, -z)''
* '''[[Pico (r6)|Pico]] @ 0, -1500'''
* '''[[Pleasantville]] @ 1300, -1000'''
* '''[[Beacon Island]] @ 520, -710'''
* [[Esper]] @ 1025, -1335
* [[Diehimmel und Diegrotten]] @ 1600, -1400
* [[Blanco]] @ 1730, -1760
* [[Gobias]] @ ?, ?
* [[Rocket Dominion]] @ ?, ?
* [[Seattle]] @ ?, ?
|| ''Southwest (-x, +z)''
* '''[[Nowhere]] @ -40, 1570'''
* '''[[Topaz]] @ -1500, 0'''
* '''[[Deorne]] @ -850, 810'''
* '''[[Lothos]] @ -230, 1130'''
* [[Clusterblock]] @ -185, 1724
* [[Herpville]] @ -700, 0
* [[New Hempshire]] @ -1420, 1560
* [[Deepholm]] @ -1285, 1090
* [[Tower Town]] @ -2278, 885
* [[Land of Ooo]] @ ?, ?
* [[Knuttin' Atoll]] @ 1100, -250
* [[Sigil]] @ 705, -89
* [[La Grès Cathedral]] -250, 250
|| ''Southeast (+x, +z)''
* '''[[New Argoth]] @ 1500, 0'''
* '''[[Wellspring]] @ 900, 700'''
* '''[[Birch Island]] @ 1630, 1337'''
* '''[[Überproject]] @ 1500, 2250'''
** [[Hall of Pillars]]
* [[Oceana]] @ 1750, 275
* [[Whore Island]] @ 2526, 24
* [[Monkeh Island]] @ ?, ?
* [[Riverwood]] @ 540, 260
* [[DerpTown]] @ 900, 300
* [[Fauxlandia]] @ 16, 1700
* [[Southquan]] @ ?, ?
* [[Kilst Island]] @ 1520, 710
* [[Not Bacon]] @ 1630, 875
* [[New Athens]] @ 950, 530
* [[Valhallan Threshold]] @ 1920, 1500
* [[Voxelholm]] @ 1790, 1930
* [[Sluttsville]] @ 3000, 3000
* [[Shitburg]] @ 331, 41
|}
[[User:Purine|Purine]] 10:25, 26 January 2012 (CST)
== 9 cell template ==
{{PvE_Atlas_r6/nocolumns}}
[[User:Purine|Purine]] 08:28, 6 February 2012 (CST)
I very much like this layout. At first it looks a bit dodgy, then you see how well it shows where things are in the world [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] 01:53, 7 February 2012 (CST)
== Make 'centre' a larger area ==
If the 9-cell layout was to be used, this becomes a moot point.
I think the area that constitutes the centre of the map should be increased, say to 500 from spawn. A few of the villages that are relativley lose, few minutes walk from spawn are technically not considered central locations. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] 01:56, 7 February 2012 (CST)
Actually, weather a 9-cell or 4-column is to be used, I think the area that is considered central should be around 500 to 1000, probably kept to a multiple of 250 [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] 12:55, 7 February 2012 (CST)
== Far east ==
This again is a moot point if a 9-cell layout is used
The 'Eastern' settlements list is rather long, perhaps a far east column could be added. If this was set at those more 1500 from spawn in the x, currently seven settlements.
:I think center column could be 500 blocks to east and west. Or even 1000. I have to put one template level more there so then those cells will be even. [[User:Purine|Purine]] 06:22, 7 February 2012 (CST)
== Another possible version ==
{{PvE Atlas r6/huge}}
Okay.... Maybe I do 6x6 cell table since the map is 6000x6000. :D [[User:Purine|Purine]] 08:30, 7 February 2012 (CST)
personally, I don't like the look of this layout. I think having a three by three is probably the best solution. The only thing I would say needs to be discussed is how far from spawn is still considered 'central', I think some where between 500 and 1000 would be good, probably to the nearest 250. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] 12:47, 7 February 2012 (CST)
== Out of date ==
This looks great thanks for all the awesome work put into this ! But ... It's now out of date and another one needs to be created. Keep up the great work! --[[User:Admin|DARKSKYNET]] 16:29, 25 February 2012 (CST)

Latest revision as of 22:29, 25 February 2012

I think these categories are unclear what should be where. I think it would be easier to group them northeast (+,+), southeast (+,-), southwest (-,-) and northwest (-,+). Purine 03:21, 26 January 2012 (CST)

Good point... I had just been going off whichever coordinate had the greater absolute value. Here's what the categories would look like grouped that way:
Northwest (-x, -z) Northeast (+x, -z) Southwest (-x, +z) Southeast (+x, +z)
One downside though, settlements right near the compass points sort of get lumped into a category that doesn't really describe their location... same problem that already exists with the current grouping. For comparison's sake, I tried grouping them in 9 sectors:
Northwest (-x, -z) North (-z) Northeast (+x, -z)
West (-x) Central (<300 blocks from spawn) East (+x)
Southwest (-x, +z) South (+z) Southeast (+x, +z)
Does a decent job grouping settlements into regions, but the end result is a rather cluttered layout. --Bencvt 09:34, 26 January 2012 (CST)

Testing

Central (<300 blocks from spawn) Northwest (-x, -z) Northeast (+x, -z) Southwest (-x, +z) Southeast (+x, +z)
Central (<300 blocks from spawn)
Spawn 0, 0
Seneca 0, -300
Snapperolle -246, -13
La Grès Cathedral -250, 250
Draco -160, 280
Shitburg 331, 41
EverBright 118, 268
Rocket Dominion ?, ?
Seattle ?, ?
Northwest (-x, -z) Northeast (+x, -z) Southwest (-x, +z) Southeast (+x, +z)

Purine 10:25, 26 January 2012 (CST)

9 cell template

v · d · e
PvE atlas
maps
   
v · d · e
Northwest
   
v · d · e
West
   
v · d · e
Southwest
   
v · d · e
North
   
v · d · e
Center
   
v · d · e
South
   
v · d · e
Northeast (+x, -z)
   
v · d · e
East
   
v · d · e
Southeast
   
other servers

Purine 08:28, 6 February 2012 (CST)

I very much like this layout. At first it looks a bit dodgy, then you see how well it shows where things are in the world Thecoshman 01:53, 7 February 2012 (CST)

Make 'centre' a larger area

If the 9-cell layout was to be used, this becomes a moot point.

I think the area that constitutes the centre of the map should be increased, say to 500 from spawn. A few of the villages that are relativley lose, few minutes walk from spawn are technically not considered central locations. Thecoshman 01:56, 7 February 2012 (CST)

Actually, weather a 9-cell or 4-column is to be used, I think the area that is considered central should be around 500 to 1000, probably kept to a multiple of 250 Thecoshman 12:55, 7 February 2012 (CST)

Far east

This again is a moot point if a 9-cell layout is used

The 'Eastern' settlements list is rather long, perhaps a far east column could be added. If this was set at those more 1500 from spawn in the x, currently seven settlements.

I think center column could be 500 blocks to east and west. Or even 1000. I have to put one template level more there so then those cells will be even. Purine 06:22, 7 February 2012 (CST)


Another possible version

Okay.... Maybe I do 6x6 cell table since the map is 6000x6000. :D Purine 08:30, 7 February 2012 (CST)

personally, I don't like the look of this layout. I think having a three by three is probably the best solution. The only thing I would say needs to be discussed is how far from spawn is still considered 'central', I think some where between 500 and 1000 would be good, probably to the nearest 250. Thecoshman 12:47, 7 February 2012 (CST)

Out of date

This looks great thanks for all the awesome work put into this ! But ... It's now out of date and another one needs to be created. Keep up the great work! --DARKSKYNET 16:29, 25 February 2012 (CST)

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